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"Once a Bully, Always a Bully”: Opinionated MAMA’s perspective on BULLYING

Reposted from 11/10: Meanies have been around since the beginning of time.  The kids who steal your lunch money, taunt you because you aren’t “cool” enough, give you wedgies and swirlies, call you embarrassing names…you know, those guys!  We all know a bully intimately…we were either bullied by someone, we were “friends” with a bully, or we were actually the big bad bully – we might still be?  Relentless teasing at someone else’s expense. Picking on the little guy (or gal).  Good for a laugh. "Sticks & stones may break...

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BULLY’S GET THEIR DUE: Teens charged in suicide case

Teen Phoebe Prince committed suicide after allegedly being “mercilessly” bullied.  According to the Boston Globe, 9 kids have been brought up on charges for statutory rape, violation of civil rights, criminal harassment and disturbing a school assembly.    Evidence in the case has come forth saying that the school was aware of the harassment and even Prince’s mother had alerted faculty members to the situation.

MOMism:  "Once a bully, always a bully."  Bullying is out of control.  In our schools and in our society, we are intolerant of anyone who is different in any way.  If we don't agree with someone's opinion, we are entitled to our own.  If we don't agree with someone's life style, we are entitled to live our own.  Newsflash - badgering and assaulting someone will not convince them of our way of thinking.  Intimidation can change someone's behavior out of fear, but it won't change someone's opinions.  Words matter...they have the power to persuade someone...and they have the power to damage someone.  We need to teach our kids to choose their words carefully.  Because picking on someone to elevate their own feeling of self-importance is not only insensitive, it makes them a big BULLY.


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  • dorightwoman

    I will always believe this falls back to the parents. If u really think of the masses, the kids, and how many there are it is hard to wrap your head around. The only things we can go with is what we saw in school. I am a firm believer that if the kids took care of one another the bullying would decrease substantially. We have the leader which is usally always the bully. What I have never been able to understand and probably never will, the kids that follow him/her in their cliques (which have also been going on since the beginning of time) go along with it when u know most of those kids knows it is wrong but instead of standing up and doing what is right they become a shrinking violet making them just as culpable as the leader. We grow up with certain principles and beliefs and we have to stand for something or we just exist. I cannot tell u how many things have happened to me in this journey of life because I do believe in the right things which doesn't necessarily mean I have always followed them. Here is a jewel for u and try to figure this one out. My youngest of five is a boy (now a man) and I never had any behavior problems with him in school. Being the fifth kid in a large family they are use to more harassing from their older siblings so he was never a whiner. I never had time for that crap cuz u are trying to hold everything together as a single mom. Well, this kid gets in the 7th grade and I get a call from the middle school telling me he is doing the work of a 3rd grader. I was stunned as I am quickly thinking shit that is four years ago. I was extremely angry and demanded to know how this could possible happen. Now when he was in elementary school he was in one of the best school districts around. I never heard a peep from any of those teachers. So when this happens to a child, at least here, they do massive testing on the child, psychological, academically, etc. Then what they do is they have a school here to whom I will be eternally grateful they put the child in. It is a single classroom where they stay all day and they try to bring all these kids up to grade level and transition them over to the appropriate school. He was in that school for four years and for at least a year had been on me about being transitioned to high school. I had worked closely with his advocate and she didn't feel he was ready yet so I explained to him that would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Thank God he wasn't one of those kids that is always on your butt till they get what they want. So finally when he transitioned he was a sophomore in high school. These kids are put in different classrooms and graduate with a different set of points. I ask him if any of the kids use to make fun of him and he said "no". There are all different kinds of cases in these schools which doesn't make the kid mentally challenged or any of that. Just like with any kid, some work at a faster pace then others, others catch on quicker then others or u can be like be where i wouldn't let the teacher go on until i really did get it cuz i was smart enough to know if I couldn't do A I sure the hell wouldn't be able to do B. My son grew up to me a wonderful man, very talented and doing great today. It still angers me that kids get passed through like this and u can't hold the teacher responsible. I know when I went to school if u couldn't do the work, they would hold u back. I don't think they do that anymore unfortunately. We need to get rid of all the bad teachers and make sure they are not so protected it takes forever to fire them because our kids are suffering and paying for their incompetence.
    on 02/22/11
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    • tiredmama

      That's right MAMA! I agree. We all need to be engaged on this issue. Parents and teachers are the adults that are with the kids all of the time. We need to teach our kids to toughen up and learn some coping skills, as well as know when they need help from an adult. Teachers need to let us know when they see something that is "off." That's their responsibility.
      on 03/10/11
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  • krdixon

    I am a teacher and a mom. I hear kids verbally bully one another every day...for no reason. It sickens me, but I never ignore it! I had a seven year old student call another boy "gay". I told him that he should never call another person that name, and did he even know what it meant. He replied, "Yea, it means two boys who sleep together. I saw it on Maury Povich." I sent the boy to detention (indoor punishment...no recess). My son is called "queer" and "gay" at his middle school because he plays tennis, not football. He has been undefeated for last two years and conference champ. He is tall, good looking and from an upper middle class family. He still gets bullied. I ask myself all the time, "WHAT is wrong with all of these kids and families?!" The insanity has to stop, and we as parents, educators, and Christians need to step-up and have a louder voice!!!
    on 10/08/10
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    • ocmama

      YES!!! So, what can we do, from a teacher's perspective. Parents need to be engaged with their kids...and teach them some coping skills...but we need help from teachers because our kids are not with us for 7+ hours a day. How can parents help teachers? How can kids ban together and help themselves stand up to bullies? Can we start some sort of "buddy system?" Moms and teachers working together would be a wonderful start.
      on 10/11/10
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    • lovemama

      geeze..why in the world would you let your kid watch povich? great job being proactive and calling the kid out
      on 10/15/10
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  • angrypop

    I saw this letter on a blog and thought it was brilliant... Letter to my daughter ( in the wake of senseless tragedy) Hello my girl, I wanted to say hi and tell you how much I miss you and that I hope your classes are going well and that you are having fun too. But I also have to have a mommy moment- bear with me here. I won't take long, and I won't be saying anything I haven't already said in one form or another, but it is important. You may or may not have heard about the NJ college student who killed himself last week because his room-mate had posted videotape of him having sex with another guy. A terrible, senseless tragedy. My mommy job requires that I remind you of two essential things: One: Nothing ruins your life forever. NOTHING. Two: Nothing ruins your life forever. NOTHING. If that young man had only waited a couple of weeks nobody would have cared- he'd have gotten past it. People have short memories- life would have gotten better, much better. His parents and friends? They loved him prior to the tape- they would have loved him afterward too. A few awkward moments and then life goes on. But when you are young you don't know that even the awkward moments are fleeting. On this, you just have to trust the old people. Remember when you were really small and cried and cried over something? Well, it didn't last. That's kind of what it's like- awful things happen, you feel like there's a rock in the pit of your stomach, somehow time goes by and it gets better. I promise you, it ALWAYS gets better. The students, a girl and boy, who were involved in the taping and posting-- they are being charged with bias crime, invasion of privacy and possibly other things. Their college life is over. They will have to live with this death the rest of their lives-- and their families are devastated. What they did was so wrong- but also so kid-stupid. Not to mention mean. And so their lives will be different forever- but even so- their families will love them and they will have time enough to hopefully live in such a way as to make meaning from their mistake. So, my beautiful girl, never, ever think something is unfixable. NOTHING you do will ever keep us from loving you. NOTHING you do could be so awful you can't get past it. And if someone is mean to you, and it isn't something you can ignore-- seek out people to talk to about it. Surround yourself with people who are supportive. If you ever need help and don't know how to ask- try writing a letter instead. And right now- before you might need such help- think about who you would talk to if needed. In the midst of turmoil sometimes we don't always think as clearly- having a plan makes it easier to find help in crisis. And remember there are always alternatives. Always. Finally, don't be mean. Don't let other people be mean. Stand up for the underdog, protect those who aren't as smart or confident or easygoing as yourself. Treat people's feelings like fragile little puppies- if you play with them- be gentle. I love you so much and I know you really don't need me to tell you this stuff.... but it's my job. Love and hugs, Mommy
    on 10/07/10
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    • tiredmama

      Love this. It is brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
      on 10/09/10
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    • ocmama

      This breaks my heart. I can't imagine the pain of losing a child to suicide...no child should feel so isolated and alone over ANYTHING.
      on 10/11/10
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  • Felix

    It says right there, parents were aware, and they let it happen. Just love the way they want to pretend to be victims.
    on 09/21/10
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  • Red Hat Granny

    This is a good article if you care to read it. Go to http://www.crosswalk.com/11628763/ or search "Bullied to Death: The Failure of Modern Moral Education by S. Michael Craven" This is his 1st paragraph. "Over the last few months, I have been struck by the terrible tragedy of Phoebe Prince, the 15-year-old Irish immigrant who hanged herself in January after suffering months of relentless public torment by her peers in South Hadley, Massachusetts. Phoebe’s story is one more in what appears to be a growing problem in America’s schools, which raises the inevitable question, “What does this say about us and our culture?” Are there lessons to be learned—warnings, if you will—about where our society may be headed?" One of the things that struck me in his article is that he said, regarding those at the candle light vigil - where were they when this bullying was going on? Good question.
    on 04/26/10
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    • momof3

      See above. I agree...where were the bystanders? Kids, teachers and parents all need to work together to give kids the info they need to deal with bullies...
      on 04/26/10
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  • cocoljackson

    Would love to hear other people's opinions.
    on 04/13/10
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  • cocoljackson

    Although the school is liable for allowing this to take place on campus this is something that parents ultimately must deal with. If kids are aggressive and are bullies it is your responsibility as a parent to make sure your kid gets the necessary counseling or behavior modification. We need to teach kids that it is NOT okay to make others feel like less so you can feel like more. That it is not okay to lash out at others if you are being lashed out against at home. We need counselors in schools who can work with kids who display bullying traits, who in turn can work with their parents to insure this type of thing doesn't get out of control.
    on 04/07/10
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    • Noelle81177

      I love your post. Do you know what my son said to me last year? "Mom, when do I get to be the bully, I'm tired of being picked on". He was 8. My heart broke into a thousand pieces. I didn't raise my kids to hurt others, but I sure didn't raise to take crap from them, either. We are not huge proponents of public school and this happened at a private school so I am homeschooling. Let me tell you, we are more involved in our community than ever before and my son's self esteem has shot through the roof. It is up to the parent's to protect their children and when something's not working we need to do EVERYTHING in our power to make this world okay for them!
      on 07/09/10
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    • dorightwoman

      I agree. I would find it very difficult to believe their child is not a bully. They will normally start displaying these signs before they even get in school. As we all know bullying has been around since the beginning of time. However, these kids are going far beyond the pale i.e their aggressiveness, running in groups and usually the leader is the bully and the rest of those kids follow. When kids start taking their lives, then the people that caused that to happen should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I believe if these kids are punished it will help cut down on bullying because unless they are just stupid they will suffer the same fate as those that went before them. I hate bullies and always have. I have five grown children, four of them boys and when they went to school I told them to be nice to everyone and stand up for anyone that was being picked on by others because if I ever got wind, ever they were involved with any type of bullying, the last face they would see would be mine and I would not be smiling. Teenagers are the worse ones for never telling their parents anything cuz they are afraid their parents will go to the school but then the kid will pay the price for the parents coming to the school. However, when it comes to bullying u have to stop it. When I was in the 8th grade in 1957, and yes it was going on then, this girl kept picking on a girl that really had no friends. I use to always say hi to her cuz I felt bad for her, I heard this ruckus in the hall when I was going to class, went over there and here was this (the bully) picking on this little gal. I told the other gal to leave her alone but she said something smart aleck to me and I hauled off and punched her and told her to quit bullying people. Well I don't mind telling u we both got hauled down to the office, got suspended for three days for fighting and my uncle was Vice Principle of the school. I don't have to tell any of u how much i dreaded seeing my mother who was an RN and who was going to be very angry with me for getting suspended. NO fighting in school way back then even. Small town and small school in comparison to these big metropolitan cities. Never regretted doing that either.
      on 02/20/11
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    • ocmama

      Classic. You are so right that bullying has been around forever...we need to teach our kids never to bully, but NEVER tolerate a bully either. Otherwise, the bully will never learn their lesson.
      on 02/21/11
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  • momof3

    I am sick about this situation...bullying starts early. Kids that get away with it grow up to be bullies. Teachers and parents need to start taking it VERY SERIOUSLY because the consequences are heart-breaking.
    on 04/03/10
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