- Everyday Thoughts on Gay Rights
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Assuming that someone serving in the military is gay and noone knows, but they do their job just like anybody else who is not gay. They perform well, they are respected etc. If their sexual preference becomes known, how come all of a sudden, they are percieved as no good? I think this whole topic is so far out of control. Who cares if they are gay, are they doing their job? Gees, we need to stay out of this personal issue and focus on other things that really matter like the homeless and jobless.on 12/25/10Reply
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Check out the VIDEO of the DADT repeal speech and signing: http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2010/12/22/president-obama-signs-repeal-don-t-ask-don-t-tellon 12/22/10Reply
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Hey MAMAS - The military review has been completed and it looks like 70+% of the military believes DADT should be repealed, so now that the American people have weighed in (civilian 75% and military 70% are in favor of repeal), what is our government waiting for?on 11/16/10Reply
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tired, sorry you come from the point of view, position in life, whatever the heck it is that makes you feel like you have no power and can be so easily victimized. I just can't relate to that mind set. Believe it or not (still laughing at the personna some have tried to project onto me LOL) I am literally a problem solver and victims advocate (per awards, job titles etc), and am the one who stands between the bullies and the REAL victims (high schooler going after an elementary school kid live and in person, not just some twit on the internet snipping and spreading lies). Yeah, I can recognize a bully in a heart beat, they typically use the same old tactics over and over. The gays, michelle...ssdd (same sh*t different day). I take issue with anyone trying to force anyone into doing anything they don't have to by law (keep in mind, that with the exception of obama's bullying his crap in opposition to the majority vote, same as that gay judge in CA, our laws are voted in by the majority), especially when there is no common sense reason for it. Getting an idea why I see gays as nothing but bullies??? They can keep their perversion (seen as such by the majority) behind closed doors. Much like picking your nose, disgusting, no one wants to see it, so if you must, keep it to yourself.on 10/21/10Reply
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tired, LOL, scared by text on a screen? And just how do you handle real bullies? LOL Sorry, but that post just cracked me up beyond belief!!! Calmed down??? RFLMFAO You people just don't get it do you? I may find many of these post to be completely idiotic crap, and if I had to deal with these posters in the real world it may be different, IF they were even real. But, as I can tell this is a very slanted, biased site to begin with, I am just sitting here laughing at it, wondering about the true age etc of the posters. Quit being such a timid coward. Cyber bullying is a total crock. No way you can blame anyone but yourself for turning the machine on and reading it of your own free will. That is what pisses me off in real life with all this BS about kids killing themselves over cyber bullying. Kids with real parents, who know they are loved, and have the support of their families, would never do such a thing. All these suicides stem from faulty parents, nothing else.on 10/21/10Reply
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mich, LOL, so, you take issue to the "redefinition" of the word conservative, and still don't understand how the majority takes issue with the attempts by gays to redefine the word marriage? I have been conservative, in the traditional sense, most of my life (excluding the wild teens of course LOL) and don't really care who wants to play with the word and try to change it into whatever they want. It will still be what it always was, meaning fully intact, no matter what they say. Same as the word marriage. Sure, I am ordained, but in no way going to allow anyone to bully me into performing a same sex union of any kind. FYI-regarding the teasing, I think you have already shown how you can't discern humor in a post without the tone, inflection, or sound of laughter, so please don't be put off by someone else not recognizing it in one of your posts.on 10/21/10Reply
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God forbid one of our children turns out to be gay, right? Because then we would have to face the possibility that they have a mental condition...a mental condition so powerful that it would force them to chose a sexual orientation- that is guaranteed to make their lives much more difficult. I mean, if I were a 15 year old boy, I would think that coming out as gay would be the GREATEST thing I could do...pleasant, everyone welcoming and totally supportive. OH...I forgot, instead of coming out, I need to remind myself that I have a mental condition and I could just take a pill or get some therapy and make it all go away. I don't really remember chosing to be straight, my body reacts to the opposite sex, I guess and that makes me 'sane' and 'normal'. But what if your body reacts differently and are you supposed to 'reason' your way through it? What if I told a straight person that they could ONLY have sex with someone of their same gender? And if they thought that was gross and couldnt do it then they had a mental condition. Seriously? How can anyone think it's a mental condition? I don't want to hear all about anyone's sexual orientation as the defining factor in "who they are." Be who you are and love who you love...and let us not discriminate against anyone...black purple gay straight jew or christian...bottom line...we're PEOPLE.on 10/18/10Reply
- No child would ever chose to be gay. It seems like a painful road of ridicule and isolation until they figure it all out and are supported by people who love them. Mental illness? No. Genetic? Yes. You are who you are...you can try to repress it, but it just will make you bitter and angry...or you can accept it and try to find some happiness.on 10/18/10Reply
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"On the subject of “The National Coming Out Day” “…Momma's don’t freak out, Hug it Out!" <<---Now THAT'S MommaMorals!!! ^5 To me...? PERSONALLY...? It seems to me that more and more, with each passing year, the TRUE PANDEMICS, now raging and racing over this entire earth... are, 1. Radical intolerance, unsubstantiated hate, socially accepted violence 2. Corrupt exploitation of peoples fears in order to manipulate the masses & indoctrinate the young. 3. Self-sustaining ignorance & blind denial of facts, due to either the "absence of education" or an “utter aversion” to enlightenment of mind and soul 4. Capitalistic and politically driven greed & dishonesty Sadly enough, these garish & widespread, "Viruses of the Soul", are actively spreading throughout our World, and are traced so easily from their origins. From "Humanities" darkest ages past, right through until today... these hate based, all-consuming diseases have continued to be spread with persistent tenacity. Customarily known to be passed on through people, using their personal religious “Beliefs” as the “Evidence, Fact & Reasoning” behind archaic ideologies.on 10/17/10Reply
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JessiAnne, how can you say being gay gets anyone discriminated against when it is so untrue? They now have legal protection and have become the bullies. If they didn't shove it in your face and down your throat the way they do, how would anyone even know they were gay in the first place? Sexual discussions and conduct are entirely inappropriate at school and the work place, so no way they should be so overt and perverse in public. Their conduct, not sexual preference, is what causes them to deal with the natural consequences of their out of line actions. And, gays will never be married, as that is the union of a man and woman. They already have the exact same rights as everyone else, and it is nothing but a manipulative lie to even imply they don't. What they are asking for is to break the rules because of their sexual preferences, and their reasoning is so similar to NAMBLA that it falls on deaf ears for good reason. When and if they quit trying to define a commonly recognized word, for a very established concept, and come up with their own new term for a new kind of union, I may consider it as a possibility, but they can never be married. The higher rates of suicide etc only prove that despite what lovemama says, being gay is a mental issue, not very different than being bipolar, simple as that. The suicide rates reflect their mental instability, despite the special treatment, coddling and pandering they get. Blacks have already proven that being given every break imaginable, including preferential treatment in every aspect from hiring and scholarship preferences to the ridiculous hate crime statutes, as if any assault is any more illegal than another, and have made gains to the point that we have a black president (in some peoples' opinion, while many firmly believe it is the biggest fraud perpetuated against this country), that none of it did anything but set them back further. They still have the highest crime, obesity, fatherless children, and poverty rates. This is because of how they conduct themselves, not anything anyone is doing to them. Same with the gays.on 10/16/10Reply
- Just loggin in today because you responded to me and I got an email. I invite you to check out the Republican room...something you might want to comment on. O-MAMA is intended to represent many point of view and there are plenty of VERY conservative posts on it. It's not associated with Obama..that'd be pretty stupid of us to do, since he'll probably be out of office after one term (we can only hope!). The O is for Opinion. As we've said, the idea is to create a constructive debate and not name call..that's the only thing we've objected to regarding any post. Anyway the Independents on the site and those who are religious I promise you have more conservative viewpoints to share than those on the gay rights hotbutton as you might imagine. So if you're uncomfortable with the tone of the gay rights posts...then try somewhere else on the site. It's fun to disagree, but it's also nice to hear some thoughts from like minded folks once in awhile, no?on 10/22/10Reply
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I am very adamantly against anyone trying to steal and bully and lie. This is what "gays" are all about. First they attack the word marriage, and try to redefine that. Then they get obama to pass legislation that allows them to bully everyone, with threats of false charges for hate crimes simply for not agreeing with them. And now they want to redefine Columbus Day? This phenomenon is nothing more than a mental defect, and is not something that should be catered to any more than a drug addiction. I do not hate "gays" any more than I would someone suffering from a similar mental condition, like multiple personalities, but I do think they should be treated, not enabled this way, as it is like making whiskey free for alcoholics. I saw all the other stories regarding this issue, and am just plain tired of having to address such ridiculous ideas. Whatever happened to facts and reality when it comes to this issue? Why all the fairy tales and manipulative lies? That is what causes all the problems. The judge who claimed that the ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional was only using his position as a judge to further his own personal interests, as he himself is gay. I would call that a horrific misuse of his judicial power and would call for his removal from the bench. He simply didn't agree with the result of a the vote revealing the fact that majority of the people do not agree with this any more than I do, and he defied the will of the people to suit himself. As far as them being in the military, if I were a soldier, I would definitely be uncomfortable being stuck in such close quarters with them, especially when it came to personal hygiene. After having enough of them making unwanted advances toward me, I see gay women to be just as welcome in that situation as a man would be. Can hardly wait til the whole issue of public restrooms falls into play. A gay woman looks at women the same as a man would, so not really appropriate for her to use the womens' restroom, due to that simple fact. So, do they need to have their own built? And if they do, are they going to demand a special one for each different variety of their sexual deviance? (They do think we should all roll over and revise our lives to accommodate them.) Expecting the whole country to restructure our lives and how we live them, in all ways, as to not offend "gays" is about as realistic as expecting every American to learn spanish so that we can enable and accommodate illegal immigrants.on 10/14/10Reply
- I think we are all tired of feeling taken advantage of...I really feel like our country is just tapped. We give people an inch and they take a mile, so we are putting our foot down. I get it. But, we have to dig deep right now and figure out what we are so mad about. I have realized I'm mad about a lot of things, but it is mostly that everyone is taking advantage of each other. We have lost the plot. We have forgotten that we are Americans - together we can do anything. We are attacking each other and at some point, we figured someone else's success is at our expense. It used to be "a rising tide lifts all boats" mentality in this country. That is the attitude I want back. We are all responsible for that. Gay people are not taking away anything from me or my marriage. Denying them the rights to serve our country and live with the same civil rights I have is hurting us. We are kicking out honorable service people. We are denying their loved ones to be by their bedside when they are sick. It doesn't make sense to me. To each, his own. I don't want their sexuality rubbed in my face - it is just bad manners. So, why don't we teach our kids good manners and sexual discretion instead? Problem solved. No ridiculous public displays from gays or straight people. I mean let's focus on the real issues - I do not get to chose the way other people live their lives. That is a great thing about this country. We can have our own opinions on the way this should be, so we teach our kids those lessons, but they should not be dictated to us. So, regardless of your personal feelings about gay people, pls re-read passages of your post and replace the word "gay" with "African Americans" or "women" and see if you feel any differently. I do believe this is a civil rights issue. If you believe it is genetic, then gays cannot change who they are. (I believe it is in their DNA and they are born gay - a mental defect would mean that it could be managed or treated with a drug or surgery?) I don't want anyone's sexuality to be rubbed in my face - gay or not. But, the more we deny the rights of certain people, whether we personally agree with their lifestyle or not, the more the issue takes on a life of its own and is in our face day in and day out!on 10/15/10Reply
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I know a lot of gays, both as friends and through my job. I like and respect most of them, but I am not interested in their private lives. I don't discuss things like this with straight friends, why would I want to with gay friends? There are two people that I especially don't like, and their being gay has nothing to do with it, but that's what they claim, whenever someone doesn't like them. Neither of them have jobs or health insurance, one is in his 30s the other, 50s. They both leach off their parents, and if they ever contract a catastrophic disease,or are in an accident, guess who will foot the bill. At social gatherings, they both are "in your face", making others feel uncomfortable. Yes, we know you are gay, can we get on with what we are here for? My gay friends are over themselves, they have a private life and they have other things going on, just like anybody else. That's how you gain acceptance.on 10/14/10Reply
- I agree with you. The point is, there are good people and bad people. Lazy people and hard working people. Fun people and annoying people. Passive people and aggressive people of every shape, size, religion and sexual preference. The basic goodness of people has nothing to do with who they love, but how they behave. As a society, we need to understand the difference and stop accepting people's bad behavior. As a society, we must make sure we do not discriminate against anyone - that is what makes us America. Everyone is created equal and has the same opportunities. What you do with it is your own deal...no one deserves special privileges, just equal rights.on 10/15/10Reply
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This gay judge just has mental issues that prevent him from seeing this issue clearly, being so completely blinded by his bias. Straights can not benefit from same sex unions. Simple as that, so yes, giving gays that right IS SPECIAL TREATMENT AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST STRAIGHTS.on 10/02/10Reply
- Our nation, as a whole, benefits when individuals are granted the rights that they deserve. Being an LGBTQ person means facing discrimination in the workplace, bullying at school and in many cases from family members, not being able to marry your loved one legally in most states, and being faced with higher rates of suicide and homelessness. LGBTQ individuals deserve the same rights as all other individuals in the United States. They most certainly are not being given special treatment when they will continue to have obstacles and hurdles in their way. The removal of one of those hurdles, such as permitted a homosexual to marry, is certainly a victory, but it is not enough.on 10/14/10Reply
- JessiAnne, how can you say being gay gets anyone discriminated against when it is so untrue? They now have legal protection and have become the bullies. If they didn't shove it in your face and down your throat the way they do, how would anyone even know they were gay in the first place? Sexual discussions and conduct are entirely inappropriate at school and the work place, so no way they should be so overt and perverse in public. Their conduct, not sexual preference, is what causes them to deal with the natural consequences of their out of line actions. And, gays will never be married, as that is the union of a man and woman. They already have the exact same rights as everyone else, and it is nothing but a manipulative lie to even imply they don't. What they are asking for is to break the rules because of their sexual preferences, and their reasoning is so similar to NAMBLA that it falls on deaf ears for good reason. When and if they quit trying to define a commonly recognized word, for a very established concept, and come up with their own new term for a new kind of union, I may consider it as a possibility, but they can never be married. The higher rates of suicide etc only prove that despite what lovemama says, being gay is a mental issue, not very different than being bipolar, simple as that. The suicide rates reflect their mental instability, despite the special treatment, coddling and pandering they get. Blacks have already proven that being given every break imaginable, including preferential treatment in every aspect from hiring and scholarship preferences to the ridiculous hate crime statutes, as if any assault is any more illegal than another, and have made gains to the point that we have a black president (in some peoples' opinion, while many firmly believe it is the biggest fraud perpetuated against this country), that none of it did anything but set them back further. They still have the highest crime, obesity, fatherless children, and poverty rates. This is because of how they conduct themselves, not anything anyone is doing to them. Same with the gays.on 10/16/10Reply
- Simply stating that being "gay" is a mental issue is not name calling, even though shady, manipulative liars like you would attempt to accuse someone of it, much in the same way that anyone who disagrees with obama is a racist. For that, I will direct this to YOU, lovemam, and let their be no mistake as to it being for anyone else...BITE ME! I loath liars, and always will. Actually, that is my biggest problem with the country overall, all the lying and manipulation. Granted, there were enough stupid people in this country for that to have worked on the simple minded last election, but for people like you to assume that everyone is an idiot, is a serious error.on 10/16/10Reply
- Stating a simple fact is in no way name calling. If you just drank a honey pot contents, I would say you were full of sh*t, and that would in no way be name calling either. Do you have a serious problem with reality, not to mention the live and let live I previously saw a poster mention, or are all straight people supposed to just cow tow to gays and allow them to bully their perverse agenda to the fullest? The majority of those in this country do not agree with this, or the BS "gay marriage" agenda, deal with it. In this country, historically, the majority rules.on 10/16/10Reply
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Anger, or common sense that YOU don't agree with LOL? But, for those of you, like graminator, who can't seem to keep up, did you miss the crap about obama giving unmarried gay couples govt benefits that go to married straight couples, but not to unmarried straight couples? Explain the fairness of that to me. If you get a break on taxes, why are so many straight elderly couples NOT getting married because they get screwed on their taxes? How stable can a "family" be when the two who are supposed to be running things are mentally unbalanced? And why do you present it as though straight families are not as stable? Where did I say to deny a QUALIFIED gay a job? I completely disagree with gays being allowed to be in a position of influence over a child, so skipping anything that has to do with that. I have over 35 years education and experience in early childhood development and psychology, and know that this is detrimental to the child more often than not, your personal experiences are only that, not the norm. What gays do to the heads of children can be horrific, and I don't even want to get started on what I have seen. DO NOT TRY TO CLAIM THAT THIS DOES NO HARM. I KNOW OTHERWISE. And, again, you put is as though straight people don't adopt or foster, and just as well, if not better. As for the overall, and how gays have no need to redefine the word marriage, showing THEIR intolerance for the majority, (and truthfully, just looks like they are doing it for attention, like spoiled brats), they can get all the same stuff already. I know they like to pound on that lie how they can't be at the bedside of a dying partner, but it IS just another LIE. When they start telling the truth, I would be more apt to bother listening to their gripes. Let them come up with a legit reason why they 1) can't use a different term, as it is describing a different relationship, same as they are "gay" not "straight", and 2) they should be given preferential treatment above everyone else, and 3) why they should be allowed to discriminate, harass, and commit hate crimes against straights.on 09/25/10Reply
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Felix, once again, here you are spouting such anger it is hard to imagine you host a loving home. But I will try. So, about the money issue: yes, there are benefits to being married. For income tax filing and for employment benefits, specifically medical insurance, being part of a married couple brings a benefit most gay couples cannot enjoy. As an employer I do contribute to such benefits. I also find that employees who are part of a stable family are more reliable, willing to develop within the company and be more valuable as the years go on. I like to see employees settle down and keep their jobs here. Why would I want to deny that to gay people? And, I know several gay couples who are foster parents, or adoptive parents. These couples have made their families with a kind of love I really respect, as it is more risky to be a foster parent--giving a home, becoming attached to a child who may at any time be taken away for reasons quite out of your control. Never-the-less, these children are getting something they need and treasure: a stable, safe, loving environment for whatever period of time the law allows. If they do not get this, they will likely be on the streets in later years, angry and dangerous to us all. Why would you deny rights to these people when granting them does you no harm?on 08/26/10Reply
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Please at least keep this straight and do not try to put words in my mouth. I do not believe children should be exposed to ANY sexual deviants, and told a completely straight man that if he didn't get the Playboys off the coffee table no way I would let kids come in his house. So, all your pop offs about it were fairly irrelevant and seemed to be an attempt at being inflammatory. As far as gays being allowed to use the title "married", and how it would affect businesses, and thereby everyone due to the trickle down theory, ever heard of those benefits employers have to pay? Ever heard of medical insurance coverage through an employer? Most have rules that allow spouses to be covered, as well as the children (yeah, all these laws and benefits that were originally designed to help families with children, which a gay couple can not produce outside of artificial means which were not available at the time these laws were created). Gays just want to manipulate the system so that these employers will be forced to pay the additional costs of covering whoever they sleep with. ALL ABOUT MONEY ONCE AGAIN. You do realize that many couples live in devoted, monogamous relationships without the license, gay or not, right? I think you are being extremely short sighted on this issue, and not following it through. As far as the rest of what they want, like being at the death bed, again, they are just looking for a cheap way out of getting a partnership agreement/power of attorney, or any of the other numerous ways to achieve the same goals. They already have legal remedies to all of that, they just don't want to admit it. Explain to me where you get the idea that a gay couple would have children to cover. Were they formerly straight? I do not believe that gays should be allowed to adopt, and the very idea is horrific to me. And spare me with this minority crap, unless you want to try to explain how a minority like hispanics illegally entering isn't causing any problems. And you keep dismissing the fact that gays want to force EVERYONE to accommodate them. That imposes the will of this minority on the majority. Is that fair, in your opinion? Sure as hell isn't in mine! When you bring the BS about religion in, I answer with LDS. Their sexual deviance, per their religion, is illegal and they are criminally charged for those crimes. And, you never answered me about NAMBLA. Dodging? Free speech? Guess you missed the new legislation that gets you fired (ask the guy they did it to and was plastered all over the front page for about a week) for simply not agreeing (not slamming, insulting, or even going on and on like the gay, quite loudly for all to hear, in the work place no less) with a gay on the rant about their partner etc. Do you bother to research the reality of any of this before you form these opinions? Seems you really don't have a very good grasp of what is going on. Gays are already bullying us out of the RIGHT to FREELY say anything against them. That putrid fraud obama shoved that one down our throats. Me, I am looking forward to the day any of those idiots try to charge me with it, as I already have my affirmative defense and counter charges planned. I will show, in open court, that THEY are the ones who committed a crime, and I am the one being discriminated against. Think I won't? Never lost a case so far. And, sorry you have such a self defeatist attitude, and hope you don't have kids if you are expecting them to be raised by their friends. I have 2, and I RAISE THEM!!!!! I buck their friends, the schools, coaches, and anyone else who is filling their heads with CRAP! I take my job seriously, and I AM THE PARENT. One of my biggest gripes with this country is the lack of hands on parents who are so lazy they expect the schools, their friends, or ANYONE else to be the main influence over their kids. Speaking as a REAL parent, I spit on them. If YOU aren't going to raise your kids DON'T HAVE THEM. You fully disgusted me with your cowardice and ignorance with those remarks, as so many pick of up that crap and run with it. My kids are now 29 and 17,and no tats, smoking, drugs (the older is working toward his doctorate) and most certainly no under aged sex, or that with a same sex partner. Facts are facts. Takes one of each gender to make a baby, which is the way nature designed it to perpetuate the species. Gays are completely against the laws of nature (do NOT try that BS about gay animals with me LOL had a gay dove ONLY because there were NO OPPOSITE GENDER AVAILABLE), not only the laws of man. Artificial means do not change that (I think boob implants and anything else unnatural and fake should be illegal). These are simple facts, and my kids see them for what they are. Please do look up NAMBLA as they would be a natural extension of this gay agenda. FYI-old man claiming it is natural and should be legal to have sex with young boys. Have fun with that research, kinda hard to stomach, I will warn you in advance.on 08/16/10Reply
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ocmama, uh, no, you don't have the right to raise your kids the way you want, unless it is WITHIN THE LAW. Say what you want about good and bad in every whatever, but I will always disagree with anyone saying gays are sane, mentally balanced at all, in any way an appropriate role model for a child, anything but a perversion of the norm... So no, wouldn't want any impressionable child to be brainwashed by them into believing this perverse conduct was in any way acceptable, much less normal. And being America only means that we tolerate differences that are tolerable. This sexual perversion, and the militant bullying, along with the judicial misconduct, is not something that should in any way be tolerated. The conduct of that judge was unconscionable, he should be disbarred with no chance at any kind of retirement benefits. A judge is supposed to be impartial and not let his personal agenda influence his decisions on the bench.on 08/14/10Reply
- I do raise my children how I want....there are no laws that affect that...the only laws I am aware of are to protect children - abuse, negligence, abandonment, etc. Although I respect your right to your feelings, there is a difference between "feeling" something and and a persons' "rights"...regardless if you like it or not. Being an American does not mean tolerating differences that are tolerable, it means tolerating differences. I believe that being gay is genetic...a person is born gay. You don't have to like it. You don't have to partcipate in it. Hell, you don't even have to acknowledge it. I don't. Gay rights don't affect my life at all. But, I don't get a vote on someone's liberties...they are their rights as citizens, protected by the Constitution. I may not like it or understand it, but just as the Constitution protects my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it protects yours...and theirs.on 08/14/10Reply
- ocmama, wrong again. Children are also to be protected from psychological and emotional abuse, not just physical. And if you think you can do what you want with your kids, just ask the LDS, or NAMBLA. You are the one who is confusing feelings with rights. You can't even have suggestive artwork around small children. When it comes to children, I have over 35 years of education and hands on experience, so yes, I am very familiar with the laws regarding them. You and I have a very different idea of what an American is, and I resent your attempt to try to lump us all together. And don't forget, the majority has already made it clear they agree with me. So, if you want to generalize, the more accurate one would be that Americans consider homosexuality an intolerable perversion, deal with it. The theory that people are born gay, is only a theory, presented by gays. No proof whatsoever. When there is, then I may change my mind, but even those scientist trying to bolster this lunacy admit they got nada! As far as whether or not I have to participate in it, making laws that force me to recognize a ludicrous "marriage" between members of the same sex, IS forcing me to participate in it, and I suppose your short sightedness didn't let you follow that thought into how it would affect employers having to deal with it all when it came to benefits etc. Guess you just can't see how they want us all forced into dealing with their sexual deviance. I won't ever recognize any same sex "marriage" because there simply is no such thing. Which brings me to a question I have always asked, and no one has been able to answer. Why didn't they just use a different term, to describe something that IS quite different, same as they are called homo instead of hetero? Why did they have to be so outrageously out of line to try to force us all to adopt their new definition? Irrational, unreasonable, just looking to create controversy, attention whores... There is nothing in our Constitution that protects a person's sexual deviance, or NAMBLA would be considered acceptable. Do you also agree with them? They are just asking to have sex with whomever they choose, same as gays, and you seem to think that children should be exposed to these sexual issues.on 08/15/10Reply
- Well...gays are not the only sexually "deviant" people out there, so if your argument is solely about the SEXUAL aspect of their relationships, good luck with that?! Newsflash...hetero men are meeting at truck stops for a quickie, plenty of men go to hookers for fantasy sex, watch porn, use toys, experiment with their hetero partners and on and on...I guess the point I am making is that we live in a free society...which means you aren't always going to agree with the way someone lives their lives. God knows, I don't. I am hypercritical. So somehow, I have found myself in the precarious position of defending "gay rights"...any one who knows me well, would think that ironic. I do think there is a lot room to quibble about the definition of "marriage" and adding the caveat of "gay marriage" or "gay union" or whatever...as I do believe in traditional marriage and have a very happy one. However, I do not find my marriage or my business would be harmed by having gay people be given the same protections under the law. Whether or not I agree with what they do in the bedroom...I try not to go there...and I don't think the government should either! I believe in people's basic rights to have their loved ones by their side when they are sick or dying...I believe that gay couples, if legally joined, should be given benefits (I have no idea why that is a big deal, they are a minority group, so it's not like there are going to be people coming out of the closet at my office and getting married...and I would never hesitate to hire a married person with a family, so even if they did, it would be a problem?). I believe that children of gay couples deserve to be protected by the same laws that my children are...I believe a lot of things that should be very simple for everyone to agree on. Even though I may not personally agree with the gay lifestyle, who am I to judge the way other people want to live their life. For example, I am a Christian, I do not agree with any other religious doctrine...since the beginning of time, we persecuted each other over religion. In the USA, we have religious freedom...we don't have to agree, but we must respect the rights of our citizenry to practice the religion they want. There are people and organizations that spew hate...since the beginning of time, we killed people for saying things we did not believe, true or false. In the USA, we have free speech...we don't have to agree, but we must respect the rights of our citizenry to speak their mind...we did not treat black people as people...there was a time that a majority was "disgusted" and outraged that a black person could sit at the same lunch counter...they could not vote, they could not own land, they counted as "property"...they did not have equal rights...I may not know any black people, but I know enough to be ashamed of our history...and I know enough to know that I have a lot to learn...we need to be evolving to expand liberties...women did not have equal rights (read this month's opinion on the 19th Amendment)...As far as children being exposed to gay lifestyles, the bad news is no matter what you or I do, kids are exposed to everything these days...but more importantly, I want to teach my children how to process the information...I know my kids are going to learn about sex FROM THEIR FRIENDS, just as they have forever...I just want to impose my values on my children while they are under my roof and teach them how to protect themselves from mis-information...I want my kids to come to me for clarification on issues. That is the best I can do. I have to look up NAMBLA, because I am embarrassed to say, I have no idea what that is...look forward to hearing back from you...by then, I'll have done my research!on 08/15/10Reply
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Gays are not, and never have been, asking for EQUAL rights, as they already have them. What they are asking for is the means to manipulate the system for profit, and, legal means to bully/punish anyone who disagrees with them. The garbage regarding any public venue, not to mention on the job, is nothing more than that. Flaunting your sexuality, much less to the degree that these people complain about not being free to do, has ALWAYS been unacceptable, for ANY person. Being gay is still not even accepted as being legitimate by a large portion of society, and it is nothing short of disgusting they want to impose their agenda on small children in the schools. Some of what they propose is so perverse its horrific. If they could get their heads around the concept of common decency, and weren't so overt (straight people who conducted themselves that way would be called "sluts", "trash", "whores"..) in public, then people may not be so repulsed. The militant gays, who want everyone to believe in this mentality OR ELSE are no better than any other bullying hate group, and that is why I resent them, same as I do muslims who demand that you believe as they do OR ELSE. The fact that some gay judge completely defied a public vote, is just one example of how they only DEMAND tolerance for their sexual exploits, and have no shame about forcing it on all of us, no matter what the majority feels or votes for. And now, Kagan on the supreme court, makes it as much of a mockery as obamadolf has made of the presidency. Many of us still consider homosexuality to be nothing more than a birth defect, much like being bipolar, to be treated, not indulged.on 08/09/10Reply
- Felix, like you I do not condone of a gay lifestyle. But, in this country, I get to live the life I want...and raise my children the way I want. Therefore, we must allow others to live their own lives, too. There are good people and bad people of every sexual persuasion. There are smart people and ignorant people of every sexual persuasion. There are disrespectful, ill-mannered people of every sexual persuasion...but, there are also kind, decent, well mannered, disciplined people of every sexual persuasion. As a country, we always end up being more inclusive and err on the side of freedom - regardless of President - because we are the United States of America and that is what we are all about. Blessings.on 08/13/10Reply
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HOORAY! Prop 8 in California ruled "unconstitutional." Sanity. And, p.s., O-MAMAs you nailed it in the video. Good job gals.on 08/04/10Reply
- How very premature. Do you really think one gay judge using his bias on the bench is what you want nationwide on all cases??????? And yes, he could very well end up disbarred for it.on 08/15/10Reply
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Constance is a beautiful, brave young woman. I am sick of schools denying young people's rights. How are these kids supposed to learn about our freedoms when schools deny them? Thankfully my daughter's high school is openly accepting of the gay lifestyle and we don't have these problems. I do not understand people who are frightened of gays. I am sick of the country denying freedom rather than upholding it.on 04/24/10Reply
- It seems to me that is the people shouting the loudest about FREEDOM & LIBERTY that are trying to take it away from everyone. Is it just me or is there a bizarro hypocrisy going on...people calling themselves PATRIOTS who aren't very patriotic and on and on...it's very confusing to keep us with it all, especially for exhausted moms like me!on 04/24/10Reply
- Please spare me the BS of ANYONE being afraid of gays. We are repulsed by the promotion of perversion. GOT THAT?on 08/14/10Reply
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Gay marriage being legalized all over the country. Guess this is the wave of the future. could use some thoughts about how to discuss issue with my kids.on 03/12/10Reply
- I told mine the same thing as the first time they saw the Jerry Springer show. "They are freaks, and I don't understand freaks, so I can't explain them."on 08/15/10Reply
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A team of advisers will review the policy and the military seems on board with the idea of eliminating the policy although it will take the Pentagon a year at least to do so.on 02/10/10Reply
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- I don't know, but I DO know that the republicans have been VERY quiet about the whole thing...which leads me to believe that it's a done deal. The snowball is so big that its just going to all be okay now because its one of those impossible things to control so we better just deal with it.on 02/08/10Reply
- Good observation ocmama...I think we probably need all the men/women we can get right now.on 02/08/10Reply
- Check the latest news, all about the highest ranking gay to get the boot yet. Done deal? Yeah, right. LOLon 08/15/10Reply
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A friend just told me that her husband who is a relatively open minded fellow is totally and completely against gay marriage...which surprised me. I think, live and let live is the way to go on this...far right pishaw!on 01/25/10Reply
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Cindy McCain has come out supporting GAY MARRIAGE. Wow. Good for her...she is an Opinionated MAMA and I like it! This should not be a partisan issue...it's a civil liberties issue.on 01/22/10Reply
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Any word on when the Sup. Ct. will rule on letting us see the tapes of the Prop 8 testimony?on 01/13/10Reply
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I'm so proud! As a future Texan I was nervous that the more conservative views might be too overpowering for my more liberal-sided family, but this has got me excited.on 01/07/10Reply
- You are a very together YOUNG mama. As long as you stay true to yourself, you will be happy wherever you are...on 01/13/10Reply
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Isn't it interesting that we can have a gay mayor, but in most states gay people can't get married or even have any sort of legal rights as a couple? It seems odd to have sexual orientation be a factor at all in public life. Really, why do we even need to know that this woman is gay? Can't she just be a woman mayor?on 12/20/09Reply
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Regarding the election of the gay mayor: I am very proud when our country sets aside prejudice and votes for people they believe in. Change does not happen over night, but change is inevitable...we just need to learn to preserve the good and change the bad. Adapt to new challenges and maintain our principles of freedom and equality for all.on 12/20/09Reply
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o.k., so I have to say, I agree he is very talented, but come on? he was totally inappropriate. gay or straight, do you have to be doing sex acts on stage during prime time? he is trying to get media attention...and it worked, so he'll keep doing it until the media ignores him. But, don't you just want to shout, oh just BEHAVE for crying out loud?on 11/27/09Reply
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Lambert is awesome and soooo talented! Just too cool for daytime...I agree. I'd go see him in concert..probably wouldnt take the kids, though!on 11/25/09Reply
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why can't people just be...Adam Lambert is gay...he is VERY GAY and very talented...who cares?on 11/23/09Reply
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adam lambert too gay? do you think some gays are TRYING to act more gay than others?on 11/23/09Reply
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@mawma2: Personally, I believe that we all come into this world the way God intended. If we are born with blue eyes or brown...if we can see or we are blind...if we discriminate based on who is genetically "perfect" or imperfect, where does it begin or end? We don't have to agree with people's life choices, but maybe we can agree that it is up to the individual. That is what living in a free society is all about...we are free to disagree, but we can't prevent people from having equal rights. Otherwise, we wouldn't be living in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the land of the free and the home of the very brave who defend our rights to live in a free society. We could just say "land of the free who agree with us," but it might not be as inspirational.on 11/19/09Reply
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Has anyone ever pondered this thought? (Possibly, but I would imagine not, because it would be considered too politically incorrect and/or homophobic....which I am not.) However, here goes: A man is born with his "parts" and a woman is born with her "parts". Does anyone believe this to be an accident? I don't. I believe each gender is born with those parts because they were meant to work together. And when a person is born a girl and feels she is living in a boy's body and should really be a boy...or visa versa...isn't this considered to be a type of malfunction in the growth of the embryo inside the womb? I believe it is...and I would think most people would agree with that. My questions then is: Why would it be considered anything but appropriate to believe that when a person is born who is attracted to the same sex...that the reason for this is that something malfunctioned in the growth process of the embryo? And as such, then why should the same privileges of marriage be given to people who were born this way? I do, however, empathize with the plight in life for someone born gay and am all for giving them certain civil rights. But does that mean that they should be given the exact same rights as human beings who arrive in this world as they are genetically intended? Many people think of homosexuals has being the same as heterosexuals, when it's obvious that something went wrong when the embryo was in utero and therefore they are not the same. This does not make me homophobic to believe this way, and I'm not trying to be hurtful or cruel. It's just common sense.on 11/14/09Reply
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The AMA makes sense...how could you treat a gay soldier properly if you didn't have a complete health history?on 11/12/09Reply
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This is a civil rights issue that will seemingly take awhile, but make no mistake, it will happen. In the United States of America, each of us is entitled to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." We live in the land of the free, where every citizen is afforded the same liberties and equal rights. Why not gays? This hetero mom doesn't understand how to explain that to my kids?!on 11/04/09Reply
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@notamama: I know, right? maybe she didn't want to influence her kid one way or the other. Sometimes you can do that just by giving your opinion. Still, she could have just said. Maybe she did and just didn't want to say in the video?? I'm with you though, NOTA....can i call you NOTA for short?on 10/21/09Reply
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Angry pop is great and I love Spain....all things spanish actually...thus, the call sign! Los espaNoles me encantan y tienen una sociedad muy abierta ademAs!on 10/21/09Reply
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when Spain legalized gay marriage Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said, "...We are enlarging the opportunity for happiness to our neighbors, our co-workers, our friends and, our families: at the same time we are making a more decent society, because a decent society is one that does not humiliate its members."on 10/20/09Reply
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Good discussion, but I wondered why Debbie didn't tell her kids her opinion was. Isn't that what moms do? They teach their kids what they think is right and when they are older decide for themselves? Just curious.on 10/16/09Reply
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Marriage is a legal deal and a religious deal. Gay has been around since the dawn of mankind and has been in the shadows...that's why it's called coming out. The problem is that people want it just a "bit" out of the shadows, but not all the way. We are trying to figure out how far out of the shadows we are comfortable with as a society. As a mom, I think we have to accept it all the way out of the shadows, right?on 10/12/09Reply
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correct me if i'm wrong but why does religion even have to come into play?! marriage is a 'legal' thing right? it's a right we have no matter what religion we are. It bugs me so badly that the old repubs are hung up on a word...and by the way it's not just the old repubs. i have 30 something repubs in the my life who aren't even religious and don't like "sharing" the word marriage with homosexuals! unbelievable to me!!!on 10/12/09Reply
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@momof2: So sorry - didn't mean to blow your cover - I wasn't thinking. With all due respect to the devoutly religious - the bible has many versions of marriage, Jacob had multiple wives, there are references to marrying your husbands brother if your husband dies - men are allowed to have wives and mistresses. It saddens me that we push these examples aside and cling to ... Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." and this verse which would have us putting homosexuals to death... Leviticus 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."on 10/12/09Reply
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@momof2: I have spent the afternoon thinking about your question - why do they need to use the word "marriage" and it suddenly occurred to me that it has the same tone as saying "why do they need to go to our schools - they can have their own separate but equal schools and be happy" Whenever you tell any human being that they don't have the right to have what another human being has - you are in essence telling them that they are a lesser person than you - and in 2009 - humanity should be more advanced than that.on 10/12/09Reply
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Best sign from the march ...."Liz Taylor had eight husbands legally ...I just want one!" Brilliant!on 10/12/09Reply
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Check out the new Kitchen Table talk video on Gay Marriage and the article for this week!on 10/11/09Reply
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@momof3: Hey sista, go sista, soul sista, go sista (I know my gay brothers would approve of a little Patti LaBelle :)on 10/11/09Reply
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I find it very tedious when Christians pick and choose from the bible to push their political agenda - any issues regarding homosexuality fall into this area. Certain people fear different and hide behind a bible verse to make themselves feel better. If we truly were to follow the bible verbatim - we wouldn't eat shellfish, if our husband dies we would have to marry his brother and basically any form of civil rights for women would be out the door. I celebrate my gay brothers and sisters and cannot understand why they don't have the same rights I do. I believe one day we will be ashamed of this injustice just as we currently are of the injustices in our past to African Americans.on 10/10/09Reply
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As a Republican, I can say, I have to say that I'm with the Dems on this one...I don't give a hoot who you love frankly. BUT, older Republicans might and they've got the $$$$ and the power. Grandma's what do you think?on 10/10/09Reply
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@SaMoMama: It is not the government's business who we love...not sure why Republicans, who believe in a smaller role for government, don't support this?on 10/09/09Reply
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@tiredmama: I agree with you....it drives me crazy that the government thinks it's their business that and that they can tell people who they can and cannot marry. Live and let live!!on 10/09/09Reply
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@SaMoMama: How do you feel about it? I tend to think it is none of my business who someone else loves...on 10/08/09Reply
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Did you guys hear that the people behind Prop 8 in California are trying to overturn the same sex marriage law in Maine with a ballot initiative? How do you feel about that?on 10/08/09Reply
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Thanks for the great idea. We tried...it didn't work! We will try again...I know there is a good video of people getting married that I'd like to post...it really humanizes the debate. Stay tuned...in the meantime, if anyone would like to check it out...please go to www.couragecampaign.orgon 09/29/09Reply
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How do we convince people that "gay marriage" doesn't destroy the institution of marriage, but DIVORCE destroys the institution of marriage? Why can't we all just focus on that? And, encourage people to commit to one another and their families?on 09/22/09Reply
